[Konvas] Kragnagorsk 1/2 question

[Brandon Esten]

A fresh can of 400' 35mm couldn't be the same price as what, a 200' can of 16mm? 200' 16mm runs ~5.5 min and the 400' 35mm runs ~4.5 at 24fps? Mmm, I seem to remember a factory fresh 400' can of V3 35mm ran about $350 a few years back. Now, if you're talking 2-perf 35mm... okay...

I see a lab in LA offering fresh 200' reels for $200 with processing included. A recan 400' of 35mm is going to run $200 without processing. Finding recans or whatever of 16 is dang near impossible, true. Then there is the scanning cost which will be a significantly higher range for 35. But this won't be an issue soon I hope ;-)

A beat up Arri SRII fully decked will run ya ~2k or 3k even in today's market (I nabbed a fully loaded A Minima PL for an absolute steal of a price coupla months back; but Aatons tend to run for a premium). But we're talking a spring movement 16mm... Low end range Bolex cams are going for ~300 with lenses. I found minty looking K1/2s go for about $100. Shipping will be a little more from Russia/Uk. Just curious how steady the image will be... For a beater, grab-and-go, fun for all ages, some assembly required batteries not included camera, the chrome edging and fashionable striped beauty plate on the front requires that I tie my sweater about my neck and wear a beret, smoke a cigarette in a long holder, and use flashy words like 'jazzy' and 'cat' and phrases akin to, "Where's my latte????" And I already SAY stuff like that and wear my sweater tied about my neck! (True story!) Now, I just need to build a bunch of post-drop-box-sized, hand-crank mobile 16mm viewers to station around LA so people can watch my low-tec youtube-style films. Mmm, no.

Anyhow, I will letcha know how bad it hurts when I end up in the ditch...

Brandon "watch out for that truck" Esten




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> On Jan 5, 2018, at 23:46, colcam--- via Cinema <cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
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> I am going to say something strange here.
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> What is the justification or reason for the Soviet 16mm?  The German, Swiss, and American 16mm were better cameras by a long shot, and Soviet 16mm glass was less than perfect.  
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> I kind of feel that Soviet 16mm systems are the Trabant in a parking lot full of Euro/US cars.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Esten via Cinema <cinema at konvas.org>
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> Sent: Fri, Jan 5, 2018 3:42 am
> Subject: [Konvas] Kragnagorsk 1/2 question
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> Hey Konvateers! Question guy here :-) For the 16mm Kragy 1 and 2 hand-wound spring models, can they chew on Kodak single-perf or are we looking at Russian-only film stock for these two? С Новым годом! Brandon Sent from my iPhone WE COULD REALLY USE YOUR HELP! The sharing of information on both the Konvas.org website and the discussion list takes a lot of time and costs money. Your donations help keep Konvas.org running and are very much appreciated: http://konvas.org/how-to/help-konvas.org-donate.html _______________________________________________ Cinema mailing list Cinema at konvas.org http://Konvas.org - All about Konvas, Kinor and other Russian Cinema Cameras Visit the discussion archives: http://konvas.org/list-archives.html Join the Konvas Discussion List: http://konvas.org/mailman/listinfo/cinema_konvas.org Please be kind when replying and crop the replied message!!!
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