[Konvas] STAR WARS

Olivier Auverlau olivierauverlau at gmail.com
Sat Dec 19 02:02:58 EST 2015


for all of you friends ! a gift  , thinking of the master of filmaking ....
and to stop" starwaring "
https://youtu.be/_FrdVdKlxUk

bests, Olivier .


2015-12-19 1:41 GMT-05:00 Brandon Esten <bruinflight at gmail.com>:

> I'm about   ]--[  < this close to making the statement that JJ will be
> remembered as the great *non*-innovator.
>
>
>
>
> [SPOILER ALERT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART; DO NOT READ BELOW]
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> While I really like this film, it has very few story innovations. There are
> a couple, but the more you discuss things the more it all comes down to
> splitting hairs over minor differences in my opinion. The scene on the
> catwalk near the end is just another Obi Wan 'New Hope' martyrdom, how EASY
> *is* it to blow up a death star anyway, how many offspring of this or that
> person get turned to the dark side, how many times do we follow an escapee
> from a star destroyer onto the face of a dune planet, how many times do we
> witness the Empire leveling a small encampment of simple folk thus steeling
> the will of our protagonist to fight evil... "Your father wanted you to
> have this, when you were old enough..." "Let's hide under the floor of the
> Falcon to evade detection..." "Don't get cocky, kid..." Chewey and Han back
> in the detention cell block disabling the tractor beam... uh, I mean
> shields... uh wait... yeah, shields... British-accent, English-speaking
> Nazis... It's all in there including a greedy, tacked-on ending that should
> have been left for the sequel. I would have been much more satisfied with a
> proper funeral and send-off for fallen heroes, which would have been
> poignant, appropriate and kinda innovative for the franchise (except that
> Vader has a proper sendoff at the end of Jedi).
>
> The galaxy is a small place, indeed, and it's seems pre-programmed to
> follow a certain set of choo-choo tracks. JJ and Kasden did a good job of
> putting together a bunch of tropes, leitmotifs and building blocks from the
> previous 6 to make 7 fit in. As much as I HATE to admit it, the story from
> Phantom Menace, a film I can barely stand, is more *innovative* than The
> Force Awakens. 7 does play out as a collage of plot points from the
> previous 6 films. But is this a bad thing? Matter of opinion, really.
>
> I'm not saying I don't like JJ for it all; indeed, I'm glad he didn't turn
> 7 into a Star-Trek meets Fast-and-Furious train wreck. Thanks for shooting
> film too, dude. I'm also satisfied with the visual styling of the movie,
> which does seem to be an innovation in the franchise. I like the use of
> chiaroscuro; the opening shots of the troopers in drop ships is choice. I'm
> not annoyed as much as I thought I would be with the camera shake. The lens
> flares.... sththththth... JJ, come on buddy, give it up. But there is a
> certain conservatism in his approach that reminds me of Lucas and this is
> enough to say, "OK, it's Star Wars... same universe, same story line if a
> little crowded and a path oft traveled."
>
> I wouldn't look at it much closer than this unless you're on the hunt for
> film-maker blood; and there are a couple of innovations like I said. The
> Finn character does undergo a feasible arc of development which is nice to
> see. It's nice to see the 4 original-cast members worked in, and an
> extended arc of development for Solo/Leah. It's nice to see the aftermath
> of the galactic scale world war. It's nice to see a fall-back to an earlier
> recognition of mysticism within the force rather than a blood type. It's
> nice to see the 'man in black' in a viable, dialog-driven power struggle
> with the top military commander that seesaws back and forth at the edge of
> posturing and goal attainment.
>
> A good film, and he didn't totally mess it up, for which I am pleased.
> My .02
> ~B
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com <
> speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com> wrote:
>
> > I thought that we were discussing Star Wars so how on earth did "Godwins
> > Law" creep in.???
> >
> > Film making has always been an International affair. A production crew is
> > made up of many nationalities from the four corners of the world and has
> to
> > be a joint effort for it to work. It is a family of multi talented
> > individuals who are brought together for a common cause, that is to
> create
> > art.  Being a professional means just that, country of birth never comes
> > into it. Sharing skills is all that matters.
> >
> > Rita
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On 19 Dec 2015, at 00:34, Olivier Auverlau <olivierauverlau at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Happy soon new year for all !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2015-12-18 18:46 GMT-05:00 Zefred <zefred at popstar.com>:
> > >
> > >> Nice ! Calling names already !
> > >> I can smell the Goodwin point coming...
> > >> Maybe Mustafa should learn politeness before insulting others in
> public
> > ?
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my cellphone. May contain typos ;)
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 18, 2015 3:32 PM, Mustafa Umut Sarac <
> mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> zafred , you are an idiot. Thats all.
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:44 PM, zefred <zefred at popstar.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Not exactly, he said "DEJA VUE - The same story with a new staff ! a
> > >>>> remake like noting new in it", which to me is info on the plot.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And yes, for some people , it is almost like a religion :)
> > >>>>
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> > >>>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Adam Frey <
> > >> thefirstrule at chainsawlinux.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Andrew Overtoom wrote:
> > >>>>>> All he said was that it is lame.  I don't see how that's a
> spoiler.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Agreed - But it's a touchy subject, as it's practically a religion
> to
> > >>>> some folks. :)
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