[Konvas] STAR WARS

Brandon Esten bruinflight at gmail.com
Sat Dec 19 02:17:42 EST 2015


Very nice!

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Olivier Auverlau <
olivierauverlau at gmail.com> wrote:

> for all of you friends ! a gift  , thinking of the master of filmaking ....
> and to stop" starwaring "
> https://youtu.be/_FrdVdKlxUk
>
> bests, Olivier .
>
>
> 2015-12-19 1:41 GMT-05:00 Brandon Esten <bruinflight at gmail.com>:
>
> > I'm about   ]--[  < this close to making the statement that JJ will be
> > remembered as the great *non*-innovator.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [SPOILER ALERT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART; DO NOT READ BELOW]
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > While I really like this film, it has very few story innovations. There
> are
> > a couple, but the more you discuss things the more it all comes down to
> > splitting hairs over minor differences in my opinion. The scene on the
> > catwalk near the end is just another Obi Wan 'New Hope' martyrdom, how
> EASY
> > *is* it to blow up a death star anyway, how many offspring of this or
> that
> > person get turned to the dark side, how many times do we follow an
> escapee
> > from a star destroyer onto the face of a dune planet, how many times do
> we
> > witness the Empire leveling a small encampment of simple folk thus
> steeling
> > the will of our protagonist to fight evil... "Your father wanted you to
> > have this, when you were old enough..." "Let's hide under the floor of
> the
> > Falcon to evade detection..." "Don't get cocky, kid..." Chewey and Han
> back
> > in the detention cell block disabling the tractor beam... uh, I mean
> > shields... uh wait... yeah, shields... British-accent, English-speaking
> > Nazis... It's all in there including a greedy, tacked-on ending that
> should
> > have been left for the sequel. I would have been much more satisfied
> with a
> > proper funeral and send-off for fallen heroes, which would have been
> > poignant, appropriate and kinda innovative for the franchise (except that
> > Vader has a proper sendoff at the end of Jedi).
> >
> > The galaxy is a small place, indeed, and it's seems pre-programmed to
> > follow a certain set of choo-choo tracks. JJ and Kasden did a good job of
> > putting together a bunch of tropes, leitmotifs and building blocks from
> the
> > previous 6 to make 7 fit in. As much as I HATE to admit it, the story
> from
> > Phantom Menace, a film I can barely stand, is more *innovative* than The
> > Force Awakens. 7 does play out as a collage of plot points from the
> > previous 6 films. But is this a bad thing? Matter of opinion, really.
> >
> > I'm not saying I don't like JJ for it all; indeed, I'm glad he didn't
> turn
> > 7 into a Star-Trek meets Fast-and-Furious train wreck. Thanks for
> shooting
> > film too, dude. I'm also satisfied with the visual styling of the movie,
> > which does seem to be an innovation in the franchise. I like the use of
> > chiaroscuro; the opening shots of the troopers in drop ships is choice.
> I'm
> > not annoyed as much as I thought I would be with the camera shake. The
> lens
> > flares.... sththththth... JJ, come on buddy, give it up. But there is a
> > certain conservatism in his approach that reminds me of Lucas and this is
> > enough to say, "OK, it's Star Wars... same universe, same story line if a
> > little crowded and a path oft traveled."
> >
> > I wouldn't look at it much closer than this unless you're on the hunt for
> > film-maker blood; and there are a couple of innovations like I said. The
> > Finn character does undergo a feasible arc of development which is nice
> to
> > see. It's nice to see the 4 original-cast members worked in, and an
> > extended arc of development for Solo/Leah. It's nice to see the aftermath
> > of the galactic scale world war. It's nice to see a fall-back to an
> earlier
> > recognition of mysticism within the force rather than a blood type. It's
> > nice to see the 'man in black' in a viable, dialog-driven power struggle
> > with the top military commander that seesaws back and forth at the edge
> of
> > posturing and goal attainment.
> >
> > A good film, and he didn't totally mess it up, for which I am pleased.
> > My .02
> > ~B
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com <
> > speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I thought that we were discussing Star Wars so how on earth did
> "Godwins
> > > Law" creep in.???
> > >
> > > Film making has always been an International affair. A production crew
> is
> > > made up of many nationalities from the four corners of the world and
> has
> > to
> > > be a joint effort for it to work. It is a family of multi talented
> > > individuals who are brought together for a common cause, that is to
> > create
> > > art.  Being a professional means just that, country of birth never
> comes
> > > into it. Sharing skills is all that matters.
> > >
> > > Rita
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > > On 19 Dec 2015, at 00:34, Olivier Auverlau <
> olivierauverlau at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Happy soon new year for all !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2015-12-18 18:46 GMT-05:00 Zefred <zefred at popstar.com>:
> > > >
> > > >> Nice ! Calling names already !
> > > >> I can smell the Goodwin point coming...
> > > >> Maybe Mustafa should learn politeness before insulting others in
> > public
> > > ?
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my cellphone. May contain typos ;)
> > > >>
> > > >> On Dec 18, 2015 3:32 PM, Mustafa Umut Sarac <
> > mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> zafred , you are an idiot. Thats all.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:44 PM, zefred <zefred at popstar.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Not exactly, he said "DEJA VUE - The same story with a new staff
> ! a
> > > >>>> remake like noting new in it", which to me is info on the plot.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> And yes, for some people , it is almost like a religion :)
> > > >>>>
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> > > >>>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Adam Frey <
> > > >> thefirstrule at chainsawlinux.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Andrew Overtoom wrote:
> > > >>>>>> All he said was that it is lame.  I don't see how that's a
> > spoiler.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Agreed - But it's a touchy subject, as it's practically a
> religion
> > to
> > > >>>> some folks. :)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>>
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