[Konvas] Cinema Digest, Vol 120, Issue 11

Fri Apr 29 21:43:51 EDT 2016

Hi Pierre Samuel , Jean Pierre is my Friend and contact, i have give this
contact for the group !

bests, Olivier .
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2016-04-29 18:26 GMT-05:00 Pierre Samuel Rioux via Cinema <cinema at konvas.org
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> Jean Pierre he is in Belgium a very nice French website.
> This could be a good contact for Oliver.
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>>    1. Re: " THE THRILL OF REEL FILM" (Nicholas Kovats)
>>    2. Re: BIG INFO ?..Magnetic sound track (Nicholas Kovats)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:00:07 -0400
>> From: Nicholas Kovats <nkovats at gmail.com>
>> To: Konvas Discussion List <cinema at konvas.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Konvas] " THE THRILL OF REEL FILM"
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>> Wonderful overview! Thanks, Rita.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Speedbird--- via Cinema
>> <cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
>> > Umut,
>> >
>> > Interesting theory but if you use heat then the polymer magnetic strip
>> will
>> > shrink or warp. I have played around with magnetic tape for years and
>> the
>> > slight hint of heat will distort the tape and ofcourse the sound
>> quality.
>> > The Perfectone tape recorder was notorious for stretching tape as its
>> > capstan motor was directly underneath the recording head and in warm
>> > climates the heat generated actually warped the tape. In the 1980's they
>> > changed the tape polymer mix and heat was not a problem.  Zonal was one
>> of
>> > the best tapes for longevity.  I tie my plants up in my garden with
>> magnetic
>> > tape and found that Zonal was the strongest. To test tapes for quality
>> and
>> > robustness, pull a length of tape and a quality tape should roll itself
>> into
>> > itself as it stretches and looks like string or thread and you can
>> actually
>> > sew your sox with it. Immensely strong stuff.
>> >
>> > Btw.  Telefunken brought out the first tape recorder in 1938. It used
>> paper
>> > tape coated in rust and gave superb recordings. The problem was when
>> > 'spooling' it broke so they brought out polymer based tape in the late
>> > 1940's to withstand high speed spooling but paper tape gave better
>> > recordings as it did not distort. In 1990  they-perfected multi gauge
>> tapes
>> > for video and sound recording, then the whole world went digital
>> spinning
>> > the recording heads fast (33 ips) and running the tape slow. Then solid
>> > state came in and everything became defunct. They called it progress
>> but you
>> > still cannot beat a good wax disc recording which why it is still used
>> in
>> > the production of vinyl records.
>> >
>> > 2 cents worth of useless information.
>> >
>> > Rita
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 27 Apr 2016, at 19:22, Mustafa Umut Sarac via Cinema <
>> cinema at konvas.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Rita,
>> >
>> > I bet they used heat to do adhesiving .
>> >
>> > Umut
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Nicholas Kovats via Cinema
>> > <cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Pre-striped Super 8 film has not been actively manufactured in
>> >> decades. There are some cottage industry level post-stripe services
>> >> available in Germany I believe. Bit of a toxic mess I'd say. Andec
>> >> Filmtechnik in Germany offers post magnetic stripe services on both
>> >> acetate and polyester film, i.e.
>> >>
>> http://www.andecfilm.de/assets/docs/pdfs/pr_2014_jan_Preise_seite_09.pdf
>> >>
>> >> I much prefer Logmar's design whereby they embedded an internal 24 bit
>> >> digital recorder into their high end Super 8 camera. Mine has the
>> >> custom 5 pin stereo XLR connector. Their firmware will indicate
>> >> start/stops regarding the digital audio recorder. The Logmar camera
>> >> motor is crystal and accurate to 0.001 fps I believe. But it is not a
>> >> quiet camera.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:19 PM, photones--- via Cinema
>> >> <cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks Rita.Gotta try S8 B&W sound film. Kodak always had the best
>> >> > magnetic
>> >> > sound stripe!
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:03:19 -0400
>> From: Nicholas Kovats <nkovats at gmail.com>
>> To: Konvas Discussion List <cinema at konvas.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Konvas] BIG INFO ?..Magnetic sound track
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>> Amazing!
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>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Olivier via Cinema <cinema at konvas.org>
>> wrote:
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>> > i just come back from 3 days filming the disaster Epicenter of the
>> > earthquake with my OSMO camera ?
>> > and coming back looking mails . .
>> > and see something about magnetic soundtrack .
>> > The ones of the BEST center of restoration sound of ANY sound format in
>> the
>> > world (it is true !!!) is CINEVOLUTION of a old friend and ex teacher
>> of me
>> > , the guy is Jean Pierre is one of the best and only MACHINE maker of
>> any
>> > kind , from the first sound movie, 70mm , vista all film format can be
>> reach
>> > read and restored in his LAB ?.
>> > so if you need mag16mm pert restoration or any kind , this is the guy !
>> > his name is Jean Pierre Verscheuren ?
>> >
>> > jean Pierre Verscheure <j.verscheure at outlook.com>
>> >
>> > webpage  http://www.cinevolution.be/
>> > with OSMO camera
>> > Facebook page
>> > https://www.facebook.com/centrederestoration/?fref=ts
>> >
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