[Konvas] Cinema Digest, Vol 120, Issue 11

Fri Apr 29 19:26:50 EDT 2016

Jean Pierre he is in Belgium a very nice French website.
This could be a good contact for Oliver.

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>    1. Re: " THE THRILL OF REEL FILM" (Nicholas Kovats)
>    2. Re: BIG INFO ?..Magnetic sound track (Nicholas Kovats)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:00:07 -0400
> From: Nicholas Kovats <nkovats at gmail.com>
> To: Konvas Discussion List <cinema at konvas.org>
> Subject: Re: [Konvas] " THE THRILL OF REEL FILM"
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> Wonderful overview! Thanks, Rita.
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Speedbird--- via Cinema
> <cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
> > Umut,
> >
> > Interesting theory but if you use heat then the polymer magnetic strip
> will
> > shrink or warp. I have played around with magnetic tape for years and the
> > slight hint of heat will distort the tape and ofcourse the sound quality.
> > The Perfectone tape recorder was notorious for stretching tape as its
> > capstan motor was directly underneath the recording head and in warm
> > climates the heat generated actually warped the tape. In the 1980's they
> > changed the tape polymer mix and heat was not a problem.  Zonal was one
> of
> > the best tapes for longevity.  I tie my plants up in my garden with
> magnetic
> > tape and found that Zonal was the strongest. To test tapes for quality
> and
> > robustness, pull a length of tape and a quality tape should roll itself
> into
> > itself as it stretches and looks like string or thread and you can
> actually
> > sew your sox with it. Immensely strong stuff.
> >
> > Btw.  Telefunken brought out the first tape recorder in 1938. It used
> paper
> > tape coated in rust and gave superb recordings. The problem was when
> > 'spooling' it broke so they brought out polymer based tape in the late
> > 1940's to withstand high speed spooling but paper tape gave better
> > recordings as it did not distort. In 1990  they-perfected multi gauge
> tapes
> > for video and sound recording, then the whole world went digital spinning
> > the recording heads fast (33 ips) and running the tape slow. Then solid
> > state came in and everything became defunct. They called it progress but
> you
> > still cannot beat a good wax disc recording which why it is still used in
> > the production of vinyl records.
> >
> > 2 cents worth of useless information.
> >
> > Rita
> >
> >
> >
> > On 27 Apr 2016, at 19:22, Mustafa Umut Sarac via Cinema <
> cinema at konvas.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello Rita,
> >
> > I bet they used heat to do adhesiving .
> >
> > Umut
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Nicholas Kovats via Cinema
> > <cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pre-striped Super 8 film has not been actively manufactured in
> >> decades. There are some cottage industry level post-stripe services
> >> available in Germany I believe. Bit of a toxic mess I'd say. Andec
> >> Filmtechnik in Germany offers post magnetic stripe services on both
> >> acetate and polyester film, i.e.
> >>
> http://www.andecfilm.de/assets/docs/pdfs/pr_2014_jan_Preise_seite_09.pdf
> >>
> >> I much prefer Logmar's design whereby they embedded an internal 24 bit
> >> digital recorder into their high end Super 8 camera. Mine has the
> >> custom 5 pin stereo XLR connector. Their firmware will indicate
> >> start/stops regarding the digital audio recorder. The Logmar camera
> >> motor is crystal and accurate to 0.001 fps I believe. But it is not a
> >> quiet camera.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:19 PM, photones--- via Cinema
> >> <cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
> >> > Thanks Rita.Gotta try S8 B&W sound film. Kodak always had the best
> >> > magnetic
> >> > sound stripe!
> >> >
> >> >
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> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:03:19 -0400
> From: Nicholas Kovats <nkovats at gmail.com>
> To: Konvas Discussion List <cinema at konvas.org>
> Subject: Re: [Konvas] BIG INFO ?..Magnetic sound track
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> Amazing!
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> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Olivier via Cinema <cinema at konvas.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > i just come back from 3 days filming the disaster Epicenter of the
> > earthquake with my OSMO camera ?
> > and coming back looking mails . .
> > and see something about magnetic soundtrack .
> > The ones of the BEST center of restoration sound of ANY sound format in
> the
> > world (it is true !!!) is CINEVOLUTION of a old friend and ex teacher of
> me
> > , the guy is Jean Pierre is one of the best and only MACHINE maker of any
> > kind , from the first sound movie, 70mm , vista all film format can be
> reach
> > read and restored in his LAB ?.
> > so if you need mag16mm pert restoration or any kind , this is the guy !
> > his name is Jean Pierre Verscheuren ?
> >
> > jean Pierre Verscheure <j.verscheure at outlook.com>
> >
> > webpage  http://www.cinevolution.be/
> > with OSMO camera
> > Facebook page
> > https://www.facebook.com/centrederestoration/?fref=ts
> >
> >
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