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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>NOOOO i am right , i will shoot tape to film
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>frame by frame in an Ultra Hight definition ...
expose 1/6 or 1/4 of second is not a problem for me because i will use RDI
emulsion (the same used in Arrilazer) ... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so it is a continuous exposure in a SLOW frame rate
.... and i syncronise each frame by a video frame using electric interface
between shutter and computer ... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now i have f2 1/2 using 250 daylight .... so i can
still use same emulsion just closing diaph ...and/or ND the lens ...for color
calibration i will test difference between what i have now and difference with
longer exposure ... </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No problem ... don t worry with exposure techniques
... it is my life ... long exposure , shorts etc .... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Olivier . </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=cinema@konvas.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:53
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Konvas] NOT TIME LAPSE ;
BUT LOW SPEED :::: camera frame by frame .... Olivier .</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're wrong,
Olivier.<BR><BR>You DO want time lapse-- not just slower frame rates.
<BR><BR>Why?<BR><BR>As the frame rate decreases the exposure time INCREASES by
huge amounts, you get blur, exposure bias and mismatch, color shift, and you
find yourself with one quarter of a second exposures requiring eighteen stops
of ND to have that blurry, miscolored image even close to properly
exposed. <BR><BR>BTW, you may also want a K mod magazine-- one that
keeps the feed side slack so that the film flow is smooth.<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: olivier satnet
<firefly@uio.satnet.net><BR>To: Konvas Discussion List
<cinema@konvas.org><BR>Sent: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 6:33 pm<BR>Subject:
[Konvas] NOT TIME LAPSE ; BUT LOW SPEED :::: camera frame by frame ....
Olivier .<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I explain bad myself .. i don t want time lapse ,
i just want low constant speed with 1000 feets mags on 2C camera so what i
explain before is the BEST way i think , i don t need another MOTOR than the
one 24fps i have !!! </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi thanks ... I don t need INTERVALS , only a
regular syncro 3fps ... BUT i have a good idea ....the ilumination come to
my head ! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>JUST with Gearing i can Speed down the SAME
motor .... it is NOT important how much is the FPS ... only the syncro
"regular speed" ....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so if i put a gear or Belt wheels i can speed
down absolutely regular to around 3 or 4 FPS ....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BINGO !!!! i don t need any other motor !
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the baseplate of course i need it !
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks a lot, Olivier . </FONT></DIV>
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Re: [Konvas] camera frame by frame .... Olivier .</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">About ten years ago I had a
"time lapse staging solenoid" drive for the Arri 2b/2c camera, and it
worked like a charm, but would be cheaper to build than to buy.<BR><BR>Get
an Arri or Panavision brand "flat base adapter" for the camera.
That's made to put the camera motor beside the camera, not under it-- but
then, instead of an Arri motor get an off the shelf "staging solenoid"
used on sorting conveyor belts, and set it up to pull a ratcheted drive
cog=2 0mounted where the motor would normally go. This means you can
program the staging solenoid to trip at given intervals, anywhere from
twenty or so times a second down to once a month. The difference is
that when it fires it fires fast, and you get a properly exposed,
advanced, and handled frame.<BR><BR>If you do get a motor from Clive, it
will work, but staging solenoids are interval set items, the motors are
not.<BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: olivier satnet <<A
href="mailto:firefly@uio.satnet.net">firefly@uio.satnet.net</A>><BR>To:
Konvas Discussion List <<A
href="mailto:cinema@konvas.org">cinema@konvas.org</A>><BR>Sent: Wed, 10
Dec 2008 2:00 pm<BR>Subject: [Konvas] camera frame by frame .... Olivier
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<DIV>HI guys, for this moment , i own a Arri2C full overhaulhed with a
24FPS motor (24fps syncro only) and PL mount ...</DIV>
<DIV>i will receive my 1000 feet magazine for Arri2/Arri3 ....
<DIV>so i will have completed my system with own equipment for tape to
film ....and mount all in a metalic structure with marks for </DIV>
<DIV>1:85, 16/9, and scope transfer </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BUT, i am really interested in a 3 to 4 FPS t ransfer from stills ...
(animation or frame by frame transfer ...) OK it take more time but will
make another option to tranfer video to film for my customers ) </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>SO i need info about a TOBIN motor for low speeds ... frame by frame
1 fps 2fps 3 fps .... (like the timelapse ones ...) to mount it on my
Arri2C </DIV>
<DIV>I need so a Inverse Baseplate to plate the motor in a side of the
camera and NOT below ... for more stability ...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>so any Timelapser have info wich motor TOBIN or other will be good
for this system ???</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bests, Olivier . </DIV>
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Re: [Konvas] funny mount</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000066 size=2><FONT face=Verdana color=#000066 size=3><SPAN
lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">"Thee´s a nice zoom lens on EBay
these days… Do you know the funny kind of lens mount? Item
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">220323145688"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000066 size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; font-s: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000066 size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ole,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000066 size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000066 size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes, that looks like a 16mm
"C" mount to me. but there seems to be a sealing ring missing over the
rear element, should'nt affect the image
though.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000066 size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000066 size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have one identical to
above but with Arri standard mount. Mine has "minty" glass and has been
serviced.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000066 size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Euros 200.00=2 0to
you!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000066 size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">These are nice lenses if you
can get a good one. The 35mm version is
stunning.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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