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From: XiaoSu Han <xax@stilfabrik.at><br>
To: kingkahluaman9@yahoo.com; Konvas Discussion List <cinema@konvas.org><br>
Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:28 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Konvas] buying a 2-perf camera. finally! or renting one for the moment<br>
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<pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>thanks for the link, unfortunately they are in the us and shipping<br>
would take too long for now<br>
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rita, that's a good suggestion, we are considering anamorphic now, one<br>
more question, is the cost going to be higher with anamorphic vs.<br>
normal 4perf? if we go the DI route completely<br>
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thanks for information!!<br>
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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:11 PM, James Compton <<a href="mailto:kingkahluaman9@yahoo.com">kingkahluaman9@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Han,<br>
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><br>
> Check out <a href="http://www.reelgoodfilm.com" target="_blank">www.reelgoodfilm.com</a>. They have great deals on recans and short <br>
ends.<br>
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> --- On Tue, 8/5/08, XiaoSu Han <<a href="mailto:xax@stilfabrik.at">xax@stilfabrik.at</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> From: XiaoSu Han <<a href="mailto:xax@stilfabrik.at">xax@stilfabrik.at</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Konvas] buying a 2-perf camera. finally! or renting one for the <br>
moment<br>
>> To: "Konvas Discussion List" <<a href="mailto:cinema@konvas.org">cinema@konvas.org</a>><br>
>> Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:14 PM<br>
>> thanks for your inputs<br>
>><br>
>> probably blinded by our young naiveness, we thought that it<br>
>> would be<br>
>> easy to get a 2perf camera and shoot right away in a<br>
>> location we don't<br>
>> know yet<br>
>><br>
>> well now we'll try to settle with a 3perf camera from<br>
>> there, so we<br>
>> have the rental house nearby or try to rent a 2perf bl4<br>
>> body only<br>
>> which i am just now asking about because then they at least<br>
>> would have<br>
>> the accessories and heavy stuff like batteries and mags in<br>
>> hk, but<br>
>> that's still in the stars as well...<br>
>><br>
>> the main struggle is to make it possible to shoot this<br>
>> short film on<br>
>> 35mm, we're tired of all the digital shit flying<br>
>> around, sorry for<br>
>> using such harsh words<br>
>><br>
>> buying short ends might not be the problem, but if we<br>
>> best-light all<br>
>> the material, it's still an increase by 25% from<br>
>> 2-perf, which would<br>
>> be ok though.<br>
>> 4perf on the other hand would be an increase of 50% from<br>
>> 2perf, so<br>
>> that's almost impossible for the budget<br>
>><br>
>> it's really good to have such a good platform to<br>
>> discuss such things<br>
>> where people share their experience just like that<br>
>><br>
>> thanks again, regards from vienna<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:05 AM, H. W. Stone<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:colcam@aim.com">colcam@aim.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Trying to shoot a strange camera in a strange<br>
>> location-- that's worse than<br>
>> > shooting a feature.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I was just offered a Euro batch of 35mm-- Fuji stock,<br>
>> mostly fast, a mere<br>
>> > 66,000 feet-- for three thousand if I would get it out<br>
>> of their way. Of<br>
>> > course I wasn't THERE, but I got a friend to pick<br>
>> it up, and she is using it<br>
>> > with some other recans to shoot a feature.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > She said the most wonderful sight was the look on the<br>
>> Sony rep's face when<br>
>> > she said she couldn't afford to rent a CineAlta,<br>
>> she had to settle for 35mm<br>
>> > film instead.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > -----Original Message-----<br>
>> > From: Adam Frey <<a href="mailto:thefirstrule@chainsawlinux.com">thefirstrule@chainsawlinux.com</a>><br>
>> ><br>
>> > HW,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I don't think you're a radical old grouch in<br>
>> what you're saying - I<br>
>> ><br>
>> > whole-heartedly agree that shooting a feature with an<br>
>> unfamiliar camera<br>
>> ><br>
>> > would be a nightmare...<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > BUT, I believe XiaoSu is shooting a 3-day short film,<br>
>> which would make<br>
>> ><br>
>> > more sense, although I still think the camera would<br>
>> have to be tested<br>
>> ><br>
>> > with a few cans of footage to figure out what what<br>
>> problems they will<br>
>> ><br>
>> > run into before they get onto the real shoot.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > As for the 4-perf vs 2-perf dilemma, XiaoSu, if<br>
>> neither Bruce nor Anders<br>
>> ><br>
>> > can get a 2-perf camera to you before your shooting<br>
>> date, you can easily<br>
>> ><br>
>> > find recan/shortends that are fairly low cost<br>
>> (sometimes as low as 1/4<br>
>> ><br>
>> > of the price of fresh raw stock, depending on<br>
>> lengths). Run the numbers,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > you might be well surprised that shooting 4-perf is<br>
>> more affordable than<br>
>> ><br>
>> > you think.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hasta Luego!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > btw: I'm still in Spain, currently in the<br>
>> beautiful city of Salamanca.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Anyone need any pictures before I leave? ;-)<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Adam Frey<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Director/Cinematographer<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Crimson Chain Productions<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://crimsonchain.com" target="_blank">http://crimsonchain.com</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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