[Konvas] " THE THRILL OF REEL FILM"

Thu Apr 28 13:00:07 EDT 2016

Wonderful overview! Thanks, Rita.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Speedbird--- via Cinema
<cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
> Umut,
>
> Interesting theory but if you use heat then the polymer magnetic strip will
> shrink or warp. I have played around with magnetic tape for years and the
> slight hint of heat will distort the tape and ofcourse the sound quality.
> The Perfectone tape recorder was notorious for stretching tape as its
> capstan motor was directly underneath the recording head and in warm
> climates the heat generated actually warped the tape. In the 1980's they
> changed the tape polymer mix and heat was not a problem.  Zonal was one of
> the best tapes for longevity.  I tie my plants up in my garden with magnetic
> tape and found that Zonal was the strongest. To test tapes for quality and
> robustness, pull a length of tape and a quality tape should roll itself into
> itself as it stretches and looks like string or thread and you can actually
> sew your sox with it. Immensely strong stuff.
>
> Btw.  Telefunken brought out the first tape recorder in 1938. It used paper
> tape coated in rust and gave superb recordings. The problem was when
> 'spooling' it broke so they brought out polymer based tape in the late
> 1940's to withstand high speed spooling but paper tape gave better
> recordings as it did not distort. In 1990  they-perfected multi gauge tapes
> for video and sound recording, then the whole world went digital spinning
> the recording heads fast (33 ips) and running the tape slow. Then solid
> state came in and everything became defunct. They called it progress but you
> still cannot beat a good wax disc recording which why it is still used in
> the production of vinyl records.
>
> 2 cents worth of useless information.
>
> Rita
>
>
>
> On 27 Apr 2016, at 19:22, Mustafa Umut Sarac via Cinema <cinema at konvas.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Rita,
>
> I bet they used heat to do adhesiving .
>
> Umut
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Nicholas Kovats via Cinema
> <cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
>>
>> Pre-striped Super 8 film has not been actively manufactured in
>> decades. There are some cottage industry level post-stripe services
>> available in Germany I believe. Bit of a toxic mess I'd say. Andec
>> Filmtechnik in Germany offers post magnetic stripe services on both
>> acetate and polyester film, i.e.
>> http://www.andecfilm.de/assets/docs/pdfs/pr_2014_jan_Preise_seite_09.pdf
>>
>> I much prefer Logmar's design whereby they embedded an internal 24 bit
>> digital recorder into their high end Super 8 camera. Mine has the
>> custom 5 pin stereo XLR connector. Their firmware will indicate
>> start/stops regarding the digital audio recorder. The Logmar camera
>> motor is crystal and accurate to 0.001 fps I believe. But it is not a
>> quiet camera.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:19 PM, photones--- via Cinema
>> <cinema at konvas.org> wrote:
>> > Thanks Rita.Gotta try S8 B&W sound film. Kodak always had the best
>> > magnetic
>> > sound stripe!
>> >
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