[Konvas] Cinema Digest, Vol 110, Issue 6
RIta Avery
speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com
Wed Jun 10 16:39:01 EDT 2015
Perhaps I should get on the next drone flight to Eureka! I would reserve your seat while there is room. No space for camera's, just bring your toothbrush and favourite dvd.
Rita
Rita
Sent from my iPad
> On 10 Jun 2015, at 20:11, Pierre Samuel Rioux <psrioux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Multi media !
>
> The tendancy it's the ownership to the producer !
> Push out the creator from his own project tell him his project will be
> better with out him, in a way it's not any more the writer or the creator
> or the filmmaker and became a associate Producer a kind of way out.
>
> No filmmaker , No DOP, No director ?
>
> This why we unhock when we came to a part in a film where they using a lot
> of ( CGI ) involving those creator
> a TV look scene, worse a game look, not a good storytelling, a bad
> continuty, and tracking and camera move
> nice but with out any propose or need emotionnaly... no real cameraman,and
> finnaly no director.
> THIS IS WHERE CINEMA TODAY SUCK i finaly find it why.
>
> THE FUTUR will be worse for men kind RITA. No place on earth will be safe.
> Nice fruit with out any nutritive value, so when the next flight to march ?
> I will get it with my winchester and my cowboy bouth.
>
>
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>> 1. Re: New Blackmagic camera (Steven Lyle)
>> 2. MULTI MEDIA WORKFLOW DIFFER (Pierre Samuel Rioux)
>> 3. Re: MULTI MEDIA WORKFLOW DIFFER (RIta Avery)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:42:47 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Steven Lyle <lyleott at yahoo.com>
>> To: Konvas Discussion List <cinema at konvas.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Konvas] New Blackmagic camera
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>> The wonders of the future, what will they be?
>> There will be Robocops!? : )?? Already seen in the movies.
>> They will have prime directives.?? They will? have emotions, like the
>> fictional Murphy in the 1980s.
>> Re drones: A person can experience loss of contact with?his or her drone
>> (thedrone goes?too high).The drone hovers, the battery dies, and the drone
>> falls to earth.There is still the battery problem in all drones.
>> Any company that can revolutionize (revolutionise in the UK) the battery,
>> will be the next mega company.? I want to buy the first stocks if I
>> onlyknew which company it would be.
>> Best,Steven
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:42 AM, RIta Avery <
>> speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Suppose I meant cut the internal wires somehow but not destroy it.? I was
>> probably thinking that drones had feelings and suffered pain if you hurt
>> them too much!!!? Perhaps tomorrow's drones will be programmed with human
>> emotions and will revolt to any war undertakings but I doubt that will
>> happen.
>>
>> Interestingly, BBC Resources own a number of HD camera drones which are
>> now in use in TV production. These are specially made to order from private
>> firms which have sprung up from all over place. They also use a drone which
>> has an umbelical cord which controls the thing. Power comes from the ground
>> and the "thing" can stay in the air for long periods and can also carry a
>> much larger camera. Obviously, it does a better job than a camera crane. It
>> is restricted by the length and weight of the cord but the shots it
>> delivers are breathtaking . It has been used on Dowton Abbey and other
>> expensive productions. Just add up the rental on a crane for 4 months
>> And a drone makes sense. HD camera's are getting smaller all the time so
>> anything is possible these days.
>>
>> They say that pizzas are now being delivered by drones but I have not seen
>> one go past my window yet.? My butterfly net is waiting!
>>
>> Rita.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On 8 Jun 2015, at 19:56, colcam at aim.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hate to ask, but what do you mean by "cut the wires ofinquisitiveDrones"
>> in your posting?? Most are radio control, but some are internal programmed
>> control units, and I'm concerned with Drone to Drone warfare being the next
>> step past video games.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RIta Avery <speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the UK they are starting to restrict the use of drones initially to
>> safeguard
>>> aircraft but are now changing the privacy laws to include drones.
>> Nothing worse
>>> than taking a shower and there's a little beasty peeping through the
>> window
>>> broadcasting it's images to the neighbours or worse.
>>>
>>> Now there's an opportunity for someone. Invent a drone to detect and cut
>> the wires of
>>> inquisitive Drones. Or is that not sporting, perhaps a drone with a
>> shotgun is the answer!
>>>
>>> Rita
>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:07:46 -0400
>> From: Pierre Samuel Rioux <psrioux at gmail.com>
>> To: cinema at konvas.org
>> Subject: [Konvas] MULTI MEDIA WORKFLOW DIFFER
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>> I learn a lot today i met the team at TUBURLENT a multimedia box
>> www.turbulent.ca ( 75 worker )
>>
>> and they do development in web tv , game development , and game and movie
>> project.
>>
>> The biggest project they working on right now it's STARS CITIZEN a 85
>> millions project. Google and you find something big
>>
>> What i find out it's the working flow are not like in movie in multimedia.
>> The Producer control the owner ship ( new tendancy )
>> they do not have a filmmaker in the multimedia team or a DOP.And they do
>> not know in the team how gonna to lead and take the control.
>> and take the control of the project or the scene. I understand now why when
>> you have in a movie a part done in multimedia why the continuity, the
>> directing ,the story telling have serious probleme and i disconnect from
>> watching the viewing, this is why.
>> This why you have nice scene with tracking camera move for no propose, or
>> actor sit and talk and not move, like in your TV you have no real director
>> involve.
>>
>> The creativity in this case belong to all...but the owner ship to less
>> people and this why the origin creator idea it's buy out of it's own
>> project in this process slowly but this will happen.Trying to get less
>> royalty to pay possible...
>>
>> Every one want a product done by a corporation only a product !
>>
>> Single creator how developing few masterpiece have no place in this system
>> except for indie film.
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:44:14 +0100
>> From: RIta Avery <speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Konvas] MULTI MEDIA WORKFLOW DIFFER
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>> Very interesting Pierre.
>>
>> Before a multi media company is commissioned and a contract drawn up there
>> must be a storyline drawn up somewhere, surely. The company was chosen
>> based on previous work and their potential to expand their expertise
>> parameter's for the new project. The film/TV producer who finalised the
>> contract knew exactly how they worked and more importantly methods of
>> working. I think you will find that the commissioning producer would
>> certainly like to take control
>> And appoint a representative within the company to make sure that the
>> storyboard is followed correctly even if the direction is out of sync.
>> There would be a lot of money at stake here so the accountants would like
>> to see some footage of their work on their desks every Monday morning
>> without fail. Paying out millions of dollars means ownership and with that
>> means control for the period it takes to do the job. I would be very
>> surprised if a multi media company is left to its own resources without any
>> interference from the commissioning company closely monitoring the progress
>> and breathing down their necks when the schedule is not being followed.
>>
>> I suppose it all depends on the brief and the importance of the scenes
>> within the script .
>>
>> Rita
>> .
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On 10 Jun 2015, at 04:07, Pierre Samuel Rioux <psrioux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I learn a lot today i met the team at TUBURLENT a multimedia box
>>> www.turbulent.ca ( 75 worker )
>>>
>>> and they do development in web tv , game development , and game and movie
>>> project.
>>>
>>> The biggest project they working on right now it's STARS CITIZEN a 85
>>> millions project. Google and you find something big
>>>
>>> What i find out it's the working flow are not like in movie in
>> multimedia.
>>> The Producer control the owner ship ( new tendancy )
>>> they do not have a filmmaker in the multimedia team or a DOP.And they do
>>> not know in the team how gonna to lead and take the control.
>>> and take the control of the project or the scene. I understand now why
>> when
>>> you have in a movie a part done in multimedia why the continuity, the
>>> directing ,the story telling have serious probleme and i disconnect from
>>> watching the viewing, this is why.
>>> This why you have nice scene with tracking camera move for no propose, or
>>> actor sit and talk and not move, like in your TV you have no real
>> director
>>> involve.
>>>
>>> The creativity in this case belong to all...but the owner ship to less
>>> people and this why the origin creator idea it's buy out of it's own
>>> project in this process slowly but this will happen.Trying to get less
>>> royalty to pay possible...
>>>
>>> Every one want a product done by a corporation only a product !
>>>
>>> Single creator how developing few masterpiece have no place in this
>> system
>>> except for indie film.
>>>
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