[Konvas] Cinema Digest, Vol 110, Issue 6

Pierre Samuel Rioux psrioux at gmail.com
Wed Jun 10 15:11:53 EDT 2015 

Multi media !

The tendancy it's the ownership to the producer !
Push out the creator from his own project tell him his project will be
better with out him, in a way it's not any more the writer or the creator
or the filmmaker and became a associate Producer a kind of way out.

No filmmaker , No DOP, No director  ?

This why we unhock when we came to a part in a film where they using a lot
of ( CGI ) involving those creator
a TV look scene, worse a game look, not a good storytelling, a bad
continuty, and tracking and camera move
nice but with out any propose or need emotionnaly... no real cameraman,and
finnaly no director.
THIS IS WHERE CINEMA TODAY SUCK i finaly find it why.

THE FUTUR will be worse for men kind RITA. No place on earth will be safe.
Nice fruit with out any nutritive value, so when the next flight to march ?
I will get it with my winchester and my cowboy bouth.


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>    1. Re: New Blackmagic camera (Steven Lyle)
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> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:42:47 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Steven Lyle <lyleott at yahoo.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Konvas] New Blackmagic camera
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> The wonders of the future, what will they be?
> There will be Robocops!? : )?? Already seen in the movies.
> They will have prime directives.?? They will? have emotions, like the
> fictional Murphy in the 1980s.
> Re drones: A person can experience loss of contact with?his or her drone
> (thedrone goes?too high).The drone hovers, the battery dies, and the drone
> falls to earth.There is still the battery problem in all drones.
> Any company that can revolutionize (revolutionise in the UK) the battery,
> will be the next mega company.? I want to buy the first stocks if I
> onlyknew which company it would be.
> Best,Steven
>
>
>      On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:42 AM, RIta Avery <
> speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Suppose I meant cut the internal wires somehow but not destroy it.? I was
> probably thinking that drones had feelings and suffered pain if you hurt
> them too much!!!? Perhaps tomorrow's drones will be programmed with human
> emotions and will revolt to any war undertakings but I doubt that will
> happen.
>
> Interestingly, BBC Resources own a number of HD camera drones which are
> now in use in TV production. These are specially made to order from private
> firms which have sprung up from all over place. They also use a drone which
> has an umbelical cord which controls the thing. Power comes from the ground
> and the "thing" can stay in the air for long periods and can also carry a
> much larger camera. Obviously, it does a better job than a camera crane. It
> is restricted by the length and weight of the cord but the shots it
> delivers are breathtaking . It has been used on Dowton Abbey and other
> expensive productions. Just add up the rental on a crane for 4 months
> And a drone makes sense. HD camera's are getting smaller all the time so
> anything is possible these days.
>
> They say that pizzas are now being delivered by drones but I have not seen
> one go past my window yet.? My butterfly net is waiting!
>
> Rita.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 8 Jun 2015, at 19:56, colcam at aim.com wrote:
> >
> > Hate to ask, but what do you mean by "cut the wires ofinquisitiveDrones"
> in your posting?? Most are radio control, but some are internal programmed
> control units, and I'm concerned with Drone to Drone warfare being the next
> step past video games.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RIta Avery <speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com>
> >
> >
> > In the UK they are starting to restrict the use of drones initially to
> safeguard
> > aircraft but are now changing the privacy laws to include drones.
> Nothing worse
> > than taking a shower and there's a little beasty peeping through the
> window
> > broadcasting it's images to the neighbours or worse.
> >
> > Now there's an opportunity for someone. Invent a drone to detect and cut
> the wires of
> > inquisitive Drones. Or is that not sporting, perhaps a drone with a
> shotgun is the answer!
> >
> > Rita
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> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:07:46 -0400
> From: Pierre Samuel Rioux <psrioux at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Konvas] MULTI MEDIA WORKFLOW DIFFER
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> I learn a lot today i met the team at  TUBURLENT a multimedia box
> www.turbulent.ca ( 75 worker )
>
> and they do development in web tv , game development , and game and movie
> project.
>
> The biggest project they working on right now it's STARS CITIZEN a 85
> millions project. Google and you find something big
>
> What i find out it's the working flow are not like in movie in multimedia.
> The Producer control the owner ship ( new tendancy )
> they do not have a filmmaker in the multimedia team or a DOP.And they do
> not know in the team how gonna to lead and take the control.
> and take the control of the project or the scene. I understand now why when
> you have in a movie a part done in multimedia why the continuity, the
> directing ,the story telling have serious probleme and i disconnect from
> watching the viewing, this is why.
> This why you have nice scene with tracking camera move for no propose, or
> actor sit and talk and not move, like in your TV you have no real director
> involve.
>
> The creativity in this case belong to all...but the owner ship to less
> people and this why the origin creator idea it's buy out of it's own
> project in this process slowly but this will happen.Trying to get less
> royalty to pay possible...
>
> Every one want a product done by a corporation only a product !
>
> Single creator how developing few masterpiece have no place in this system
> except for indie film.
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> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:44:14 +0100
> From: RIta Avery <speedbird at acousticturtle.plus.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Konvas] MULTI MEDIA WORKFLOW DIFFER
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> Very interesting Pierre.
>
> Before a multi media company is commissioned and a contract drawn up there
> must be a storyline drawn up somewhere, surely. The company was chosen
> based on previous work and their potential to expand their expertise
> parameter's for the new project. The film/TV producer who finalised the
> contract knew exactly how they worked and more importantly methods of
> working. I think you will find that the commissioning producer would
> certainly like to take control
> And appoint a representative within the company to make sure that the
> storyboard is followed correctly even if the direction is out of sync.
> There would be a lot of money at stake here so the accountants would like
> to see some footage of their work on their desks every Monday morning
> without fail.  Paying out millions of dollars means ownership and with that
> means control for the period it takes to do the job. I would be very
> surprised if a multi media company is left to its own resources without any
> interference from the commissioning company closely monitoring the progress
> and breathing down their necks when the schedule is not being followed.
>
> I suppose it all depends on the brief and the importance of the scenes
> within the script .
>
> Rita
> .
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 10 Jun 2015, at 04:07, Pierre Samuel Rioux <psrioux at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I learn a lot today i met the team at  TUBURLENT a multimedia box
> > www.turbulent.ca ( 75 worker )
> >
> > and they do development in web tv , game development , and game and movie
> > project.
> >
> > The biggest project they working on right now it's STARS CITIZEN a 85
> > millions project. Google and you find something big
> >
> > What i find out it's the working flow are not like in movie in
> multimedia.
> > The Producer control the owner ship ( new tendancy )
> > they do not have a filmmaker in the multimedia team or a DOP.And they do
> > not know in the team how gonna to lead and take the control.
> > and take the control of the project or the scene. I understand now why
> when
> > you have in a movie a part done in multimedia why the continuity, the
> > directing ,the story telling have serious probleme and i disconnect from
> > watching the viewing, this is why.
> > This why you have nice scene with tracking camera move for no propose, or
> > actor sit and talk and not move, like in your TV you have no real
> director
> > involve.
> >
> > The creativity in this case belong to all...but the owner ship to less
> > people and this why the origin creator idea it's buy out of it's own
> > project in this process slowly but this will happen.Trying to get less
> > royalty to pay possible...
> >
> > Every one want a product done by a corporation only a product !
> >
> > Single creator how developing few masterpiece have no place in this
> system
> > except for indie film.
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